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Quote:[OOC] Nicole Romez: Cecil any more of it and you get a boot. Complain on the forums.

Okay.

For the last three nights, us citizen players have been running into administrator(s) observing us via noclip. As it seems, almost every act we perform is recorded and used against us by the MPF. In its purest form, this is metagaming. It is collecting information that you know, and asserting it as information your character knows without any legitimate roleplay source. Now, one of the server’s rules is that metagaming is off limits (it even says this in the small broadcasts to the top-right of the screen), so why is it justified if a server admin does it?

Using noclip to fix map problems and to aid players are understandable uses, but this shit is just ridiculous.

John supply you guys(all the guys from mR) with weapons, You guys talk in teamspeak/not in game, and Abusing an npc for free tokens just to buy more guns, most of the people that spammed chat, minge punchwhoreing people, and /charfallover to get through places you shouldn't, raiding the nexus when icly there are several mpfs and otas in there, torturing one rct because he is the only mpf on, SPAWN killing people. <this here isn't RP, and your complaining about admins flying around observing people, even though john was doing it as well. You guys have done more wrong than bell and audio, All I'm saying.

And I should have copied what dan said last night but I'm just going to try and quote it, "Roggeh: Stock piling weapons and sitting the rebel base isn't RP." "Dan: That is the rebels job, to gather all their weapons and attack the combine everyday." < Nop.

That is all I got to say.

(03-11-2012, 11:52 PM)Piluso Wrote: [ -> ]but this shit is just ridiculous.

Well that is all going to change today.
From now on, only rebels enter the rebel base.
Only rebels gather and stock weapons down there.
Civis will not hang out down there unless rebels grab and pull them in during an event, and make more rebels.

Nexus Raids will mean serious shit and everybody is open to be killed during that.
Perma killed.

The noclip factor will be shut down if audio continues it, I will ban.

Putting bodies between doors, as funny as it can be, will lagg and crash people.
Do it again and I'll be forced to temp ban you.

There is no Galo Sengen in hl2rp.

(03-12-2012, 10:08 AM)Rog Wrote: [ -> ]And I should have copied what dan said last night but I'm just going to try and quote it, "Roggeh: Stock piling weapons and sitting the rebel base isn't RP." "Dan: That is the rebels job, to gather all their weapons and attack the combine everyday." < Nop.

(03-11-2012, 11:52 PM)Piluso Wrote: [ -> ]but this shit is just ridiculous.

I DID NOT Say that! Do Not Misquote me. After you said "Roggeh: Stock piling weapons and sitting the rebel base isn't RP." I said "And Raiding the Combine Fortress everyday Is?"

The Point Being is that Yes Rebels are supposed to stockpile things. They are the rebels . . . and the combine being what they are have almost unlimited resources, all the rebels can do is stockpile in hopes to fight back. . .

Ps. I did not take part in anything else you listed, the whole time that was happening I was in the Sewers patrolling like a rebel should be.

Sorry if I missed quoted you dan. I was half awake when that went down. And I wasn't saying everyone was doing all of those things, I just mean as a general group, someone from mR did one of those things/multiple, that doesn't mean EVERYONE from mR was in on it. Its just kind of sad when all the citizens are in the subways playing rebels, when there shouldn't be that many, and they were not even recruited from the rebels that already exist.

This is the last time I'm gonna explain the noclip/observer ordeal.

An admin without observer is like a blind policeman. How do you expect us to help you guys with things if using noclip is considered the devils work? Now I can understand if an admin literally went in observer, saw you do something that's perfectly within the server rules, and then mentioned it ICly, then you can complain. I'll be perfectly fine to deal with them then. But unless one of you has a personal story to share where an admin ICly used information he gained through observer then I'd prefer you all to just shut up about the matter.

Shut up about being phys-gunned into walls.

I'd rather not thanks,Now this has not happened to me but a few people have been phys-gunned into walls and many more people complain about audio no-clipping.Now I don't mind using the probe to fly around,but no-clipping around the city is going way too far.

Me and Audio are never on-line at the same times so all I hear of his activities are from those on our teamspeak and I believe I have heard enough to make this judgement,Either remove the no-clip from the server and leave the probe (or better yet Audio can patrol the streets and get kid-napped like the rest of us ) So the no-one can complain.If Audio continues to treat people in the way he currently is,Then I think we should remove admin powers temporally.

Now I'd like to remind you that all I hear of Audio,I hear on teamspeak.So if you have anything to say about the way I see Audio I suggest you take it up with our members on the teamspeak.

Let me explain the no-clipping factor from the adminstrator's point of view. I for one, use noclip frequently to observe civilian roleplay, and in no way is this metagaming. I do not use this information to my character's advantage, in fact my character doesn't even know most of the people on the server. It's to simply enforce the roleplay rules when there's people about that like to powergame, or not roleplay fairly. I do not see how this is such a big issue, as Bell said "Were blind without it." I cannot go off of console logs alone, as certain situations need to be seen. Please take this into consideration before getting upset over us for attempting to create a more stable roleplaying environment.

As for Audio, I notice him no-clipping a lot in console aswell, admittedly. Though I have never seen him metagame with the information he's aquired while doing so, granted I don't know what he does half the time either. I will watch him if that will ease your minds, but I honestly don't see no-clipping to be a serious issue on the adminstator's part. Were given a tool to help you, and were using it.