04-10-2013, 10:37 AM
05-12-2013, 10:01 AM
Josef was temporarily unbanned for his birthday, while he was unbanned he was pleasant with everyone and there were no problems. I think the July 6th date should be reconsidered. I've already spoken to most people, and there are very few people at this point who still wish him to remain banned.
We've never been this stubborn with anyone before, and I'd have to say I don't like the result of how we've handled this one. mR has always been more forgiving, no reason to change that now.
We've never been this stubborn with anyone before, and I'd have to say I don't like the result of how we've handled this one. mR has always been more forgiving, no reason to change that now.
05-12-2013, 12:26 PM
Fuck it. Unban him
05-12-2013, 12:52 PM
(05-12-2013, 10:01 AM)mIKe Wrote: [ -> ], while he was unbanned he was pleasant with everyone and there were no problems.
This is because he was in a channel with people who he got along with before anyway. The real test is if he can stay in a channel with Snifflles for 30 seconds without insulting him in some way or another.
05-12-2013, 01:11 PM
(05-12-2013, 12:52 PM)craigpd Wrote: [ -> ]This is because he was in a channel with people who he got along with before anyway. The real test is if he can stay in a channel with Snifflles for 30 seconds without insulting him in some way or another.
I think you'd like to know that even sniffles wants Josef unbanned.
They actually got along believe it or not.
05-12-2013, 01:30 PM
I’m unbanning Josef. Mike approved this, but told me that could cause a lot of drama if people in the community don’t handle it maturely.
If anyone still has an issue with Josef, then I think you need to re-evaluate why you’re keeping that grudge. If you think this decision is stupid or whatever, get in touch with me and we can talk it out.
If anyone still has an issue with Josef, then I think you need to re-evaluate why you’re keeping that grudge. If you think this decision is stupid or whatever, get in touch with me and we can talk it out.
05-13-2013, 10:00 PM
We, as a group, sat in teamspeak and discussed when we would unban Josef.
We decided upon a date, July 6.7 as Madman reminded us in a previous post.
If we as a community then decided that coming to a general consensus is now useless, then why do we bother talking to each other at all?
I would hope that decisions made after a long discussion in which almost every admin was present (or in towelie's case well represented, again by madman) should hold some weight.
I've had a brief talk with towelie about this, I will admit I do not like josef, nor I believe will I ever like him. That being said everyone should be given a second (or 20th) chance.
He should have this chance, at the agreed upon time.
I would welcome discussion about this subject in a medium that is not the forums, seeing as actually talking to people (in our case via teamspeak) is a very efficient method of communication.
We decided upon a date, July 6.7 as Madman reminded us in a previous post.
If we as a community then decided that coming to a general consensus is now useless, then why do we bother talking to each other at all?
I would hope that decisions made after a long discussion in which almost every admin was present (or in towelie's case well represented, again by madman) should hold some weight.
I've had a brief talk with towelie about this, I will admit I do not like josef, nor I believe will I ever like him. That being said everyone should be given a second (or 20th) chance.
He should have this chance, at the agreed upon time.
I would welcome discussion about this subject in a medium that is not the forums, seeing as actually talking to people (in our case via teamspeak) is a very efficient method of communication.
05-14-2013, 02:17 PM
(05-13-2013, 10:00 PM)WAAAGH! Wrote: [ -> ]We, as a group, sat in teamspeak and discussed when we would unban Josef.
We decided upon a date, July 6.7 as Madman reminded us in a previous post.
If we as a community then decided that coming to a general consensus is now useless, then why do we bother talking to each other at all?
I would hope that decisions made after a long discussion in which almost every admin was present (or in towelie's case well represented, again by madman) should hold some weight.
I've had a brief talk with towelie about this, I will admit I do not like josef, nor I believe will I ever like him. That being said everyone should be given a second (or 20th) chance.
He should have this chance, at the agreed upon time.
I would welcome discussion about this subject in a medium that is not the forums, seeing as actually talking to people (in our case via teamspeak) is a very efficient method of communication.
Sorry I was working when you got on Teamspeak earlier....
We've came together as a community to make this decision, and we handled it well. In hindsight allowing him to be unbanned for a day was not the greatest idea. It was a test that went all to well. He got along great, showed maturity, and every reason we wanted him to stay banned for as long as we decided has already been accomplished. I see no reason to keep him banned, and everyone else would agree. I know you don't care for Josef at all, and I can respect that. All I ask is you treat him fairly. The probationary period is still in effect. We are either going to have pleasant person around the servers to hang out with, or we will not. There will be no drama. I'm also going to advise josef not to talk to you and to just let you decide if you want to communicate with him or not.