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URGENT: Huge server side bug/issue

Started by erikli99, 10-04-2011, 05:30 PM13 replies3,240 viewsThreaded Mode
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erikli99 Conscript Offline 10-04-2011, 05:30 PM #1
I'm not sure if someone has brought this to your attention yet, but someone needs to attend to this quickly.

This is an urgent case and I'm not sure if this is the place to put it.

This occurred in Mikes Revenge Vanilla Server #1

Ever since 3 days ago, I've noticed that the server seems to have a delayed map save, and it has caused me and many other big problems. It happens when you drop blocks or place items into your chest, then log off then log back on. When you log back on, the dropped blocks and items you placed in your chest would disappear defaulting to the state it was in before anything was placed. This has happened multiple times.

Events:
1) I first noticed this issue when I hoed over 128 blocks and planted the seeds, went back to the house, [removed from inventory] 4 stacks of sand, 2 stacks of food from my inventory in the oven, and [added to inventory] 3 stacks of brick from my chest.
I logged of 10 minutes later, came back on 15 minutes later finding that the hoed and planted blocks were all undone, the sand and food from the oven was missing, and the three stacks of bricks still in the chest. My inventory had 3 stacks of bricks and missing 128 seeds that i planted, 4 stacks of sand i placed in the oven, and 2 stacks of food. This means that the server side map saving did not to its job, but the player's dat file did indeed update.


2) Second occurrence: one of my fellow townsmen ArcusLumina was building a big house, she logged off after its done and came back some time later to find a big chunk of her new progress was gone. No players were in the area since our island is quite far away from everyone else. She stated that it seemed to have just not saved the last 30 minutes progress at all.

3) I went to my secret diamond stash and withdrew my diamonds from my chest. I logged off, then came back on 15 minutes later to find the diamonds were still in the chest. When I took the diamonds it duplicated the items. I tried to replicate this issue by dropping half the diamonds back in the chest to find that when i came back on, the half stack that I placed back down were gone. I then tried to keep replicating the problem to see if there was a discernible pattern, but had yet to find it. I have learned that it appears that this happens randomly, but more frequently than it actually working the way its supposed to, which is drop an item in the chest, log off, log on with the items still there (successful map region save). I have noticed however that if it is successful that the item is still in the chest after I dropped it off and log back on, this happens:

Drop item into chest --> log off --> check chest to see contents are still there, if yes --> log off, log back on --> grab items from chest --> log off, log on --> items still in chest and in my inventory, so I grab the item again duping the items --> log off, log on :: Login Error :: End of stream.

When that happens I try to log in maybe for a minute to be able to come back in the server to find that the contents in the chest has been registered as removed.


I've been doing numerous tests to see what causes the issue but has not been successful at finding the pattern. If the admins would like, please PM me and I can demonstrate this issue in my region. This is a huge problem since it disrupts the fundamental game play of minecraft. And it can be quite frustrating to player that spend over an hour building or mining an area to find that everything was undone the next time they log on.


As of now, I will not do anything in the server until I know this bug has been fixed. I am currently holding a ton of resources that I am afraid of losing by storing it in a chest.

Please send this information to the proper people, aka majong game developers. I believe it is associated with the new 1.9 prerelease 2 patch.

Best,
Erik
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Michael The Judge Offline 10-04-2011, 05:42 PM #2
well the large areas rolling back is a problem with the saves, sometimes the server dosn't save properly, crashes, and the progress rolls back to the previous save, which may have been hours ago. It dosn't affect your inventory because that's saved seperately.
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erikli99 Conscript Offline 10-04-2011, 05:55 PM #3
(10-04-2011, 05:42 PM)Michael Wrote: well the large areas rolling back is a problem with the saves, sometimes the server dosn't save properly, crashes, and the progress rolls back to the previous save, which may have been hours ago. It dosn't affect your inventory because that's saved seperately.

So this is a known issue already? I've had reports from players all around the server map.
This issue happens quite often now. Since last night, this problem can be duplicated 95% of the time by me, meaning that I cannot trust that each item I drop in a chest will still be there when I leave and come back, thus I won't be touching anything in the map until i am certain it is safe. Also, this bug allows players to exploit the issue and dupe items.
(This post was last modified: 10-04-2011, 05:59 PM by erikli99.)
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crushedmuffin Baby Member Offline 10-04-2011, 06:34 PM #4
its more annoying, when all your stuff disappears, i keep my diamonds on me when i log off, i put them in a when i get back on, went out to smoke logged on and off. went to make amour, all my diamonds have disappeared, and wont reappear. they may not be away to fix it, but its annoying
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erikli99 Conscript Offline 10-04-2011, 06:37 PM #5
In addition to the statement, I'm saying this problem persists right now, when the server is running live, not when it crashes or restarts etc, the server is constantly on during this problem.
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mIKe Funder of [mR] Offline 10-04-2011, 06:48 PM #6
We're trying to figure out what is going on right now. I'm not sure if it's a Minecraft SMP bug or something on our servers....
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Versieon Baby Member Offline 10-04-2011, 08:53 PM #7
I have also noticed this, as well as probably related issue of chunks reloading in game, which i have experienced twice now. The latest was witnessed by both Blargh_14 and I. We had mined a long tunnel, and when returning, found that a group of chunks we had gone through had reloaded to their previous state(evidenced by the rediscovery of diamond in the same areas) I do not remember much correlation with any in game disturbance, but there was a substantial amount of lag throughout.
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erikli99 Conscript Offline 10-04-2011, 11:22 PM #8
Good luck guys, it doesn't seem like an easy problem to fix. Maybe ask the other servers to see if they have experienced the same issues, if not then it is probably an independent issue particular to server #1.

You have the best Minecraft Server out there. I hope you guys figure it out.

Many thanks,

-Erik
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Michael The Judge Offline 10-05-2011, 04:15 AM #9
ah this sounds like a different error to what I expected then, from the sound of what verision is saying it's a problem with chunks saving? :\
man this is what happens when you run a pre-release of a beta of an indie game.
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Blargh_14 Mr. Top Hat Offline 10-05-2011, 09:59 AM #10
(10-04-2011, 08:53 PM)Versieon Wrote: I have also noticed this, as well as probably related issue of chunks reloading in game, which i have experienced twice now. The latest was witnessed by both Blargh_14 and I. We had mined a long tunnel, and when returning, found that a group of chunks we had gone through had reloaded to their previous state(evidenced by the rediscovery of diamond in the same areas) I do not remember much correlation with any in game disturbance, but there was a substantial amount of lag throughout.

I didn't get the chance to tell you, I redug that tunnel, and I found out something.

only pieces of it reloaded, and it had dug out areas inbetween them

tunnel, chunk, tunnel, chunk, I only had to dig out the chunks. This happened every... 20? 30? blocks which is too small for an entire minecraft "chunk" and freaked me out thinking about this phenomenon.

Edit: same thing happened with 2 separate chests, the cobble chest unchanged, and the one with diamonds lapiz and saddles changed back. -.- my luck
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